Showing posts with label topless pools. Show all posts
Showing posts with label topless pools. Show all posts

Saturday, June 26, 2010

Topless European Style Sunbathing Pools seen as a gimmick in Las Vegas


A number of years ago, some Las Vegas hotels decided to operate topless pools. To sound more exotic, they called them European style sunbathing pools.

We've been to 2 of them. One at Caesars and one at Mandalay Bay. Needless to say, none of them compare to nice nudist resorts.

We did a review of the Las Vegas European sunbathing pools a few years ago. Here is some of what I wrote:

"As [a reporter] writes "pool visitors regularly steal not-so-furtive glances of anything they can glimpse [meaning naked breasts]."...

The first thing you need to know is the whole purpose of those adult pools in Las Vegas... is to try to get some women to take off their tops and to be the "entertainment" for guys which will spend a lot of money on drinks and entrance fees. Margaritas for instance are $12.50. Call brand cocktails are $15.00. Entrance fees for guys are $10 to $50/day. These pools need topless women to keep the guys drinking. We were told some of the pools pay showgirls to topless sunbathe midweek when they can't get "civilians" to topless sunbathe.

...Las Vegas pools are NOT for women where it is their first time topless sunbathing in public as the guys very obviously stare and blatantly check out the topless women. They make the women feel very uncomfortable...

When we got there [Caesars] on Wednesday, the regular bathing suit pool was packed. The Venus pool was about 1/3 full. There were 4 rows of lounge chairs. The ones next to the pool were reserved for high rollers or you could rent them for $150-$250/day depending on how busy they were. They had 6 cabanas that rented for $650-1000 per day or again went to high rollers...

There were maybe 15 couples and another 25 guys with groups of 2 to 6 guys hanging around.

We sat on the lounge chairs. We looked around. Not one single woman was topless. Mary Clare commented, "this is really creepy." A pool attendant walked by and Mary Clare asked "is this really is a topless pool" to which the attendant said midweek sometimes no one goes topless all day long, and at other times a few women go topless. He said they only really have some topless women on Saturdays and Sundays.

Mary Clare told me that even though we own a nudist resort, even though she is comfortable having nude pictures of herself used on our blog and website, she feels really uncomfortable going topless there. However, since we are there to report on the Las Vegas European style sunbathing experience, she decided she will take off her bikini top. I told her she didn't have too, but she insisted to get a full flavor for their experience...

As soon as Mary Clare went topless, a woman sitting right across from us immediately took off her top too. She obviously did not want to be the only woman with bare breasts there.

Then came the next phenomenon. Guys in lounge chairs "had" to get up and walk right past Mary Clare and this other woman. And when they got in front of Mary Clare and the other woman, most slowed down and blatantly stared for a second or 2 and walked on. The other woman and her male friend left after maybe 15 minutes of her being topless.

We were there for about 3 hours and it was nonstop new guys walking by stopping and staring as if they had never seen bare breasts before in their lives. Now in all fairness, once the guys had walked by the topless women once, most didn't walk by again. They just stared from their lounge chairs.

When we left at 3pm there were maybe 20 couples and maybe 50 guys there. There was never more than 3 women at a time topless sunbathing. Most woman would take of their top and then either cover back up after being subjected to all the guys leers or they would leave shortly after going topless.

Women wearing bikinis, tops and bottoms were not subjected to the leers.

It was hot. Here at our resort, we invested in a $6000 poolside misting/cooling system. It is state of the art and our guests love it. At the Venus pool, they have the misters like at our resort, but only at the cabanas. Everyone else is treated like a second class citizen and has to suffer in the heat...

Needless to say, the experience was very unsatisfactory. If you are a woman going topless for the first time, you will feel so intimidated by all the men, you will never try it again. It is not a pleasant experience like you find at nudist resorts.

Mary Clare, said to me, she felt like a piece of meat on display for hungry dogs (the men). She would have kept her top on except to experience the European style pool for herself...

In conclusion, you can tell no one has a clue as to how to run a nice topless pool. I assume no one has ever been to a topless beach in Spain or France. If they had, they would know, just like we know, the most important thing is make the woman feel comfortable. If she doesn't, the couple will never come back. We for instance we will never try the Venus pool again unless we hear from guests that it is more women friendly.

Caesars Palaces topless pool is a phony "European style" pool as much as the Las Vegas strip is an imitation of real Venice, Paris, New York, etc."

Now a Las Vegas hotel operator admits topless pools are just a gimmick and obviously one they do not know how to properly manage.

Here's the story:

"Resorts weigh pros and cons of topless pool scene

A volatile mix of Strip debauchery — topless women and pools filled with booze-buoyed partygoers — may be running its course.

Some nightclub managers, who run the poolside dayclubs, say they may be more trouble than they’re worth.

Last summer, Metro Police arrested 11 people at the Rio’s Sapphire Pool, a topless pool run by the Sapphire strip club. The Rio ended up shutting down Sapphire Pool...

Clark County enforcement officers are sending letters to the clubs, reminding them that topless sunbathing must be separate and obstructed from other guest areas, off-limits to minors and cannot been used for contests, parties or special events while topless sunbathing is taking place.

It’s that last part that has caused the most consternation. The topless pool scene has grown to include DJs, dancing and celebrity appearances. Although they don’t call them parties, they have included headlining performers, birthday celebrations and resort anniversaries — the normal kind of fare that’s offered at nightclubs run by the likes of Pure Management, Light Group and Tao Group — which all run topless pools in town...

Light Group President Jodi Myers said one reason it decided against topless sunbathing at its new pool is because the no-party policy limits the club’s marketing. Phil Shalala, vice president of marketing at the Hard Rock, said they felt it was a gimmick that had run its course...

For the full article click here

In the comments section of this article someone innocently asked where his wife could go topless sunbathing at a nice place. Someone answeed the south of France. It just goes to show that nudism still has a long way to go if people still don't realize there are lots of nice nudist resorts in the US.

Guests of ours who work in the hotel industry in Vegas, say the topless pools are now all about the booze and not relaxing poolside. Their philosophy is get the women drunk so they go topless. Then encourage lots of guys to pay admittance and let them charge hundreds of dollars on their bar tabs.

If you're into drinking heavily and enjoy drunk screaming people, the Las Vegas pools are for you on the weekends. If however you are like most people and enjoy relaxing and having adult conversations instead of drunk talk, then I would stay away from the Las Vegas topless pools and go to a nice nudist resort instead.


Tom Mulhall
Terra Cotta Inn clothing optional resort and spa, Palm Springs, California
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Sunday, August 9, 2009

Girlfriend getaways at clothing optional resorts is the perfect vacation choice


Girlfriends getaways are a major travel niche. I just came across a site called Girlcations. To go to this site click here

This site is about a TV show that will be shot in Atlanta all about girlfriend getaways or as they call them girlcations. A fun play on the words nakations, staycations, and obviously vacations.

Many nudists say not enough women vacation at nudist resorts. Marketing for girlfriend getaways is the perfect way to introduce more women to the nude recreation.

Of course a few policies at nudist resorts will have to change. One is you will have to allow women to go just topless sunbathing. Every few weeks we have a few women staying here taking a girlfriend getaway. If they are not repeats, they always go topless sunbathing first. Most of the time after a day they feel comfortable going nude sunbathing and love the freedom of not wearing any clothes. I know though, if we had a mandatory nudity in the pool rule like most nudist resorts, the women would not come here.

They would go to the European sunbathing pools in Vegas instead so they could try just topless sunbathing instead.

Next, you have to have areas and/or resorts without kids. We have found women coming here for girlfriend getaways do not want to be around naked kids. Many women are school teachers and they do NOT want to hang out at nudist resorts where there are kids. Since we don't cater to families, we are the perfect girlfriend getaway destination.

Whenever we vacation in Las Vegas, we see lots of groups of 2-8 women taking girlfriend getaways. Of course they are wearing clothes or swimsuits. Some, but not too many are at the Las Vegas topless pools.

I think girlfriend getaways are a perfect market for some nudist resorts like ours.

And if you have always wanted to try topless or nude sunbathing, give us, The Terra Cotta Inn clothing optional resort and spa a call at 800-786-6938. We are the most mainstream nudist resort in the US.

Visit our site at http://sunnyfun.com

Hope to see you in sunny Palm Springs!

Sunday, July 19, 2009

European Sunbathing pools in Las Vegas are not the same as clothing optional resorts


We have had guests go to Las Vegas trying out their European style sunbathing pools thinking they will have the same experience as vacationing at our clothing optional resort, The Terra Cotta Inn in Palm Springs, California. They have nothing in common with nudist resorts.

We have been to 2 ourselves. What sets Las Vegas topless pools apart so much is the men way outnumber the women. So much so that many women are intimidated and do not go topless sunbathing. Another thing is they are very heavily drinking oriented as they make lots of money on drinks. One of the pools we were at was charging $15 for mojitos. And their beer and wine were way overpriced too.

On weekends, it is a major drunken party bash. Alcohol is flowing, girls are screaming, it is not a great place to relax. If you are looking for a frat party atmosphere, it is perfect, but not a romantic place for couples.

Finally, they have no shade unless you want to pay around $300 for cabanas. They haven't even invested in poolside misters or a salt water pool. We are a 17 room inn and we care about our guests and we invested in misters and pool umbrellas and salt water pool, but not Las Vegas topless pools. Those things don't make them money.

An Australian writer wrote for their big news organization news.au.com about his experience at the European style topless sunbathing pools in Las Vegas:

"Party like a Las Vegas rock star


...Even though sunlight burns my bleary eyes and a jackhammer pounds my brain, a broad smile covers my face.


My hangover fades as I soak in my surroundings...

...Bare it all

The hedonism continues the next day at Bare at The Mirage.

Adult pool bars that allow topless sunbathing are all the rage in Vegas...

A surprisingly small pool is the focus of the venue...

VIP cabanas are elevated above the water, perfect for starlets to lie back on the comfy sofas and see all the competing posers.

I soon realise why the pool is so small the beautiful people come to be seen beside it rather than in it.

...Elevated above the pool, feet up in the cabana, sun shining on my face and enjoying the parade of half-naked women walking by.

Have I just stumbled into my adolescent fantasy?

Surely it can't get better than this? That's when a waitress in a baby-blue bikini brings me my mojito..."

Living like a rock star the partying, the food, the booze,... man, it's exhausting."

For the full article click here

Vegas expects the female guests to be the entertainment for the men like this Australian reporter. Some of the topless pools like the Rio have to hire topless dancers to topless sunbathe as they are so overwhelmed with men and so intimidating that no regular woman would ever feel comfortable topless sunbathing there.

So if you are a big time exhibitionist and love the attention of lots and lots and lots and lots of men, Las Vegas European style sunbathing pools are perfect for you to go around topless and shake it for all the boys.

Above is an ad for one of the topless pools in Vegas at a shopping mall.

If you are a regular woman who wants a nice romantic vacation experience and want to try topless or nude sunbathing, then come over to sunny Palm Springs, California only 280 miles from Las Vegas. Our resort is perfect.

Our resort is the most mainstream clothing optional resort in the US and is perfect for couples trying topless or nude sunbathing for the first time.

Even the company that published this article news.au.com from Australia this month picked us as one of the 10 best nudist resorts in the world. We were the only one for couples that they picked in the US

So for a fun vacation experience, give us a call at 800-786-6938.

Visit our site at http://sunnyfun.com

We hope to meet you in sunny Palm Springs!

Sunday, June 28, 2009

Topless swimmers win right to use city pools topless in Sweden


Swedish government officials get it right concerning women's rights to swim topless at city swimming pools.

For years women have been able to legally topless sunbathe on many Swedish beaches. But, starting in the 80's a backlash started growing against bare breasts. I guess maybe it is the Americanization of treating breasts as a sexual object instead of what they are mammary glands.

Now I hear from people who say that breasts should be covered because they are too sexy. But, at the same time people say some women's legs are very sexy. Should they be covered too? What about cleavage? Should that be outlawed? What about beautiful faces?

Eva Longoria is considered very sexy. Yet as far as I know she has never appeared topless. It is her face that makes her sexy judging by all the hair and cosmetic products she pitches. She we make pretty women cover their hair and faces like Muslim women do because they are sexy?

Here's the story:

"Women in Malmö have been given the right to bathe topless in the swimming pools of Sweden's third largest city.

The city's sports and recreation committee voted on Wednesday against a motion entitled: "Women with two-piece swimsuits ought to wear a top piece".

The committee eventually settled on the wording that "everybody should wear bathing suits" at Malmö pools but there is no requirement for women to cover their breasts...

But eventually the committee overcame its misgivings and the final decision was unanimous...

“Everyone is required to have a swimsuit when visiting the city’s indoor pools and if it doesn’t cover the upper body, that’s OK too.”...

"We don't define what bathing suits men should wear so it doesn't make much sense to do it for women. And besides, it's not unusual for men to have large breasts that resemble women's breasts," he said.

The Social Democrat politician feels the entire issue has been overblown.

“This is really not that big a problem,” he said...

Speaking to The Local at the time, Ragnhild Karlsson, 22, explained the womens' motives for swimming without bikini tops.

"It's a question of equality. I think it's a problem that women are sexualized in this way. If women are forced to wear a top, shouldn't men also have to?"

Outraged by what they regarded as discrimination, a group of women in southern Sweden made a show of solidarity by establishing the network, whose name translates as both "bare breasts" and "just breasts".

For the full story click here

Now if you don't want to have to fly all the way to Sweden to good swimming in a pool topless, give us The Terra Cotta Inn clothing optional resort and spa a call at 800-786-6938.

We are the most mainstream nudist resort in the US and perfect for couples trying topless or nude sunbathing for the first time.

Visit our site at http://sunnyfun.com

We hope to see you in sunny Palm Springs!

Sunday, November 16, 2008

Penthouse Magazine may bring nude casino dealers to Las Vegas

Las Vegas knows that bare skin sells. Anyone who has been to Vegas knows there are lots of nude gentlemen's clubs n that town. A couple of years ago, Las Vegas started to have topless swimming pools which they call European style sunbathing pools.

This fall the Rio hotel announced that they were going to partner with a gentlemen's club to have topless strippers at their topless pool. Other hotels unofficially had strippers use their topless pools.

I guess the next step would be to have nude dealers at a casino.

Here's the story:

"Penthouse, the adult magazine may soon become Penthouse, the casino...

The casino would be based on the Penthouse brand and that would mean nudity would be involved. To what extent that would happen is yet unknown.

Whether or not the Nevada Gaming Commission would even allow for nudity on the casino floor is an issue all in itself...

"It's about rethinking the way of how people think of casinos in Las Vegas, coming in with a new paradigm. Everyone tries doing the cookie cutters, doing the same thing over and over again, and we believe it's time to create a new widget," said Bell.

The women in Penthouse magazine could well serve as dealers at the new casino. They would be dressed down, and maybe even be completely nude...

"I think it would be great for something like that to happen in Las Vegas. The current casinos are getting stale and it is time for something new, something fresh, that people can grasp on to," said Las Vegas resident Tim Joyer."

For the full story click here

Some of the topless pools in Las Vegas are pretty sleazy and packed with men. I have always contended that one of the biggest threats to legitimate nude recreation is when non nudist run businesses get into the nudity business like the topless pools in Vegas. In my opinion, that turns off more women from ever trying topless or nude sunbathing as they will think the whole idea of nude resorts is for women to bare their breasts for guys to ogle. They won't even think topless or nude sunbathing is for women older than 30.

So if you have always wanted to try topless or nude sunbathing in a safe environment, give us The Terra Cotta Inn clothing optional resort a call at 800-786-6938.

Visit our site at http://sunnyfun.com

Hope to see you in sunny Palm Springs!