I just received this and am forwarding it to everyone here.
* * * * * * * *
"Hey Friends Of San Onofre Beach (FOSOB) members!
First, we'd like to thank you all so much for joining our Facebook group. What a fun bunch so far! :)
Second, We're asking you to help us promote the group by suggesting it to all your friends who support nude beaches. And, have them suggest it to their friends, etc, etc. Pass it on, pass it on, pass it on.
The group has grown to 240 members in just a few weeks, and we're sure that the membership will grow significantly in the next few months - hopefully by summer.
Wouldn't it be nice if California's anti-nudity bureaucrats visited our Facebook page this summer and said "Holly cow! I had no idea there was that much support for a nude beach at San Onofre!" ? Well, lets make that happen.
San Onofre is the last legal nude beach in all of Southern California's Ventura, Los Angeles and Orange County coastlines. Not only is San Onofre one of the last undeveloped areas of the coastline, but the remoteness, combined with the fact that there is no pass-through beach traffic - since the clothing optional area dead ends at Camp Pendleton Military Base - makes it unique among all the other beaches along that stretch of coast. San Onofre is simply THE best place to have a clothing optional beach in southern California.
Please help us on our membership drive, so we can reach as many people as possible to help us all protect San Onofre's clothing optional area.
Here's the public link to the Friends Of San Onofre Beach (Official) group:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=info&gid=108983922453567&ref=mf
Thanks in advance! See you all online! Have a great day! :)
ps: Feel free to participate in the group comments."
San Onofre was a great nude beach. I hope nudists get to use it again nude.
Tom Mulhall
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Thursday, May 6, 2010
Monday, November 30, 2009
97% of Taxpayers say It was a big waste of money for state to fight San Onofre nude beach
One truism about politics is taxpayers usually have much more common sense then appointed government workers who normally just feed off of the taxpayers backs.
Last year a California parks department director got a bee in her bonnet because San Onofre nude beach was very popular (it had been used as a nude beach for over 30 years) and she wanted it to be shut down. She said thee was high crime there. It was determined that there were 150 documented complaints in a 10 year period or one every 24 days. Plus, the crimes were mainly in the parking lot and not by nudists. Too bad they didn't compare the crime statistics to textile beaches. I bet textile beaches have more complaints filed.
The Orange County register newspaper on 5/30/08 had a poll:
What do you think of the nude beach? Here was the result:
The state should shut it down 287 votes
I'll be heading down to take my clothes off 2854 votes
Doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't do it 535 votes
I've nude sunbathed in Europe, but would hesitate in the U.S. 91 votes
Total Votes: 3767
Only 7.6% of people taking the poll wanted the beach shut down. Click here to see original poll
However, the California state parks department went ahead and wasted $42,000 of taxpayers money getting the San Onofre nude beach shut down. they completely ignored the wishes and desires of the citizens as seen in that poll.
So the Orange Country Register this Nov 25th, 2009 conducted another poll asking readers was it worth wasting (oops they said spending) $42,000 on this fight to shut down the beach. Do you know what? Taxpayers again show common sense. 97% said NO!
Here's the poll results as of when I write this. This poll is still open and people can still vote.
"State spends over $40,000 to fight nudists
Was it worth spending $42,000 on this fight against public nudity?
Yes. I feel the money was well spent. 2 %
No. The state is already cash-strapped. 97 %
Not sure. 1 %
Total Votes: 449"
To see and vote on the poll click here
Too bad our government seems to NEVER listen to the citizens with common sense. They always seem to listen just to extremists. And too bad we can't vot out of office political hacks and appointees.
Tom Mulhall
Terra Cotta Inn clothing optional resort and spa
Sunny Palm Springs, CA
800-786-6938
http://sunnyfun.com
http://twitter.com/nudist_resorts
Last year a California parks department director got a bee in her bonnet because San Onofre nude beach was very popular (it had been used as a nude beach for over 30 years) and she wanted it to be shut down. She said thee was high crime there. It was determined that there were 150 documented complaints in a 10 year period or one every 24 days. Plus, the crimes were mainly in the parking lot and not by nudists. Too bad they didn't compare the crime statistics to textile beaches. I bet textile beaches have more complaints filed.
The Orange County register newspaper on 5/30/08 had a poll:
What do you think of the nude beach? Here was the result:
The state should shut it down 287 votes
I'll be heading down to take my clothes off 2854 votes
Doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't do it 535 votes
I've nude sunbathed in Europe, but would hesitate in the U.S. 91 votes
Total Votes: 3767
Only 7.6% of people taking the poll wanted the beach shut down. Click here to see original poll
However, the California state parks department went ahead and wasted $42,000 of taxpayers money getting the San Onofre nude beach shut down. they completely ignored the wishes and desires of the citizens as seen in that poll.
So the Orange Country Register this Nov 25th, 2009 conducted another poll asking readers was it worth wasting (oops they said spending) $42,000 on this fight to shut down the beach. Do you know what? Taxpayers again show common sense. 97% said NO!
Here's the poll results as of when I write this. This poll is still open and people can still vote.
"State spends over $40,000 to fight nudists
Was it worth spending $42,000 on this fight against public nudity?
Yes. I feel the money was well spent. 2 %
No. The state is already cash-strapped. 97 %
Not sure. 1 %
Total Votes: 449"
To see and vote on the poll click here
Too bad our government seems to NEVER listen to the citizens with common sense. They always seem to listen just to extremists. And too bad we can't vot out of office political hacks and appointees.
Tom Mulhall
Terra Cotta Inn clothing optional resort and spa
Sunny Palm Springs, CA
800-786-6938
http://sunnyfun.com
http://twitter.com/nudist_resorts
Friday, October 23, 2009
Gosh, someone wrote about me today
There was a blog post about me today. Gosh, I'm honored.
I guess I have ruffled a few feathers. I did not intend to as I have better things to do in my life than to have to respond to blog posts.
Nudiarst writes: "In a post today, Tom Mulhall claims that I actually agreed with his position on San Onofre based upon a few words he claims I wrote back on July 19 of this year."
He then states: "Pulling a few words out of context is a patently dishonest way to engage in debate. I would hope that Tom would keep this exchange of ideas and positions on a higher level."
This is what I quoted from nudiarst that he wrote on his blog on 7/19/09. I gave him the date yesterday:
"That's why I've said that the NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits at San Onofre, and instead seek ways to establish new areas. The California DPR doesn't oversee the entire coast, does it? There has to be several beaches ripe for nude recreation, in jurisdictions that need the revenue.
Sure, the loss of San Onofre is painful, but it doesn't necessarily spell the end of nude beaches in California."
So you can judge if I pulled something out of context, here is his FULL comment:
"I think AANR does have a lot to lose. Certainly the NAC, TNS members, and the Friends of San Onofre Beach are upset at them for undermining their efforts.
AANR has staked its reputation on this deal with the DPR. They have stated quite emphatically that they are not being played for a fool, and if it turns out that the DPR is yanking their chain, they will lose all credibility on the public lands issue.
I think that AANR knows that more free beaches are inevitable, Yes, San Onofre is a setback, but look at what's happening at Key West. Cities and states are desperate for money and there should be a willingness to designate more areas for nude sunbathing and swimming if it can be shown that such a venture can be safe and profitable.
That's why I've said that the NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits at San Onofre, and instead seek ways to establish new areas. The California DPR doesn't oversee the entire coast, does it? There has to be several beaches ripe for nude recreation, in jurisdictions that need the revenue.
Sure, the loss of San Onofre is painful, but it doesn't necessarily spell the end of nude beaches in California."
Everyone knows nudiarist does not agree with AANR. That really is real old news and means nothing as far as the Cahill policy being invalidated. What means something is he wrote "NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits."
Now once the court of appeals invalidated Cahill, NAC had to take it to the Supreme Court of California in hopes of getting the decision overturned. That was the correct move since the policy was invalidated at the court of appeals level.
I feel the lawsuit was started way to early in the negotiation process.
Later in today's post from nudiarst he writing "Pulling a few words out of context is a patently dishonest way to engage in debate. I would hope that Tom would keep this exchange of ideas and positions on a higher level" is a low blow.
As EVERYONE can see, NOTHING was pulled out of context.
As a matter of fact your whole post
CLICK HERE TO SEE POST was beneath your standards of excellence that you have maintained. At this point in time, I will still say you are the best nudist blogger on the web. I assume you are saddened by the San Onofre results as all nudists are and that is why you lashed out at me, but cheap shots at me does not reflect well on you.
You feel strongly that NAC should have sued, I don't. You got your way, NAC sued and now we all have to live with whatever the results will be with Cahill being invalidated. That is the true injustice here.
Some people think it is romantic, even chivalrous to tilt at windmills. I'm a pragmatist and don't. That is probably where we differ.
Tom
I guess I have ruffled a few feathers. I did not intend to as I have better things to do in my life than to have to respond to blog posts.
Nudiarst writes: "In a post today, Tom Mulhall claims that I actually agreed with his position on San Onofre based upon a few words he claims I wrote back on July 19 of this year."
He then states: "Pulling a few words out of context is a patently dishonest way to engage in debate. I would hope that Tom would keep this exchange of ideas and positions on a higher level."
This is what I quoted from nudiarst that he wrote on his blog on 7/19/09. I gave him the date yesterday:
"That's why I've said that the NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits at San Onofre, and instead seek ways to establish new areas. The California DPR doesn't oversee the entire coast, does it? There has to be several beaches ripe for nude recreation, in jurisdictions that need the revenue.
Sure, the loss of San Onofre is painful, but it doesn't necessarily spell the end of nude beaches in California."
So you can judge if I pulled something out of context, here is his FULL comment:
"I think AANR does have a lot to lose. Certainly the NAC, TNS members, and the Friends of San Onofre Beach are upset at them for undermining their efforts.
AANR has staked its reputation on this deal with the DPR. They have stated quite emphatically that they are not being played for a fool, and if it turns out that the DPR is yanking their chain, they will lose all credibility on the public lands issue.
I think that AANR knows that more free beaches are inevitable, Yes, San Onofre is a setback, but look at what's happening at Key West. Cities and states are desperate for money and there should be a willingness to designate more areas for nude sunbathing and swimming if it can be shown that such a venture can be safe and profitable.
That's why I've said that the NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits at San Onofre, and instead seek ways to establish new areas. The California DPR doesn't oversee the entire coast, does it? There has to be several beaches ripe for nude recreation, in jurisdictions that need the revenue.
Sure, the loss of San Onofre is painful, but it doesn't necessarily spell the end of nude beaches in California."
Everyone knows nudiarist does not agree with AANR. That really is real old news and means nothing as far as the Cahill policy being invalidated. What means something is he wrote "NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits."
Now once the court of appeals invalidated Cahill, NAC had to take it to the Supreme Court of California in hopes of getting the decision overturned. That was the correct move since the policy was invalidated at the court of appeals level.
I feel the lawsuit was started way to early in the negotiation process.
Later in today's post from nudiarst he writing "Pulling a few words out of context is a patently dishonest way to engage in debate. I would hope that Tom would keep this exchange of ideas and positions on a higher level" is a low blow.
As EVERYONE can see, NOTHING was pulled out of context.
As a matter of fact your whole post
CLICK HERE TO SEE POST was beneath your standards of excellence that you have maintained. At this point in time, I will still say you are the best nudist blogger on the web. I assume you are saddened by the San Onofre results as all nudists are and that is why you lashed out at me, but cheap shots at me does not reflect well on you.
You feel strongly that NAC should have sued, I don't. You got your way, NAC sued and now we all have to live with whatever the results will be with Cahill being invalidated. That is the true injustice here.
Some people think it is romantic, even chivalrous to tilt at windmills. I'm a pragmatist and don't. That is probably where we differ.
Tom
Some background info on San Onofre and the Cahill policy
The Metropolitan New-Enterprise which is Los Angeles' daily legal newspaper had an informative article about the San Onofre nude beach case and the Cahill policy today.
Here it is:
Supreme Court Denies Review of Nude Sunbathing Ruling
By STEVEN M. ELLIS, Staff Writer
...The high court on Wednesday declined to review or depublish the appellate court’s ruling that a former policy effectively allowing nude sunbathing at the beach as long as other beachgoers did not complain was never adopted as a regulation, and thus did not have to be formally repealed in order for officials to crack down on the practice.
The Fourth District’s Div. Three in June overturned a writ of mandate that had directed the California State Department of Parks and Recreation to reinstate its “Cahill Policy” pending formal adoption of the department’s plan to begin strict enforcement of its anti-nudity policy in all units of the state park system...
The solution, Cahill said, was that “enforcement of nude sunbathing regulations within the State Park System shall be made only upon the complaint of a private citizen” and that no one should be cited or arrested for violating Sec. 4322 unless efforts to obtain voluntary compliance were unavailing.
The department, however, announced last year that it was repealing the Cahill policy with respect to San Onofre State Beach, which includes a small area, Trail 6, where nude sunbathing has gone on for years. The department said that nearby population growth had increased the number of beachgoers, and there had been complaints regarding nudity, lewd conduct, and sexual harassment of department employees, and that as a result, it would begin strict enforcement of Sec. 4322 after Labor Day...
The case is Naturist Action Committee v. California State Department of Parks and Recreation (2009) 175 Cal.App.4th 1244.
Fro the full story click here
Tom
Here it is:
Supreme Court Denies Review of Nude Sunbathing Ruling
By STEVEN M. ELLIS, Staff Writer
...The high court on Wednesday declined to review or depublish the appellate court’s ruling that a former policy effectively allowing nude sunbathing at the beach as long as other beachgoers did not complain was never adopted as a regulation, and thus did not have to be formally repealed in order for officials to crack down on the practice.
The Fourth District’s Div. Three in June overturned a writ of mandate that had directed the California State Department of Parks and Recreation to reinstate its “Cahill Policy” pending formal adoption of the department’s plan to begin strict enforcement of its anti-nudity policy in all units of the state park system...
The solution, Cahill said, was that “enforcement of nude sunbathing regulations within the State Park System shall be made only upon the complaint of a private citizen” and that no one should be cited or arrested for violating Sec. 4322 unless efforts to obtain voluntary compliance were unavailing.
The department, however, announced last year that it was repealing the Cahill policy with respect to San Onofre State Beach, which includes a small area, Trail 6, where nude sunbathing has gone on for years. The department said that nearby population growth had increased the number of beachgoers, and there had been complaints regarding nudity, lewd conduct, and sexual harassment of department employees, and that as a result, it would begin strict enforcement of Sec. 4322 after Labor Day...
The case is Naturist Action Committee v. California State Department of Parks and Recreation (2009) 175 Cal.App.4th 1244.
Fro the full story click here
Tom
Looks like nude beaches will be OK in California (except San Onofre)
According to the Orange County Register newspaper today, it appears that even with the state Supreme Court striking down the Cahill policy which allowed people to nude sunbathe on certain beaches in California without fear of being cited. That is great news for nudists. Nudist may have lost the use of San Onofre nude beach, but at least it appears at this point in time there will be no enforcement by park rangers where nude sunbathers would be ticketed.
Here's the quote:
"The obliteration of the Cahill Policy essentially means that park rangers no longer need to receive a private citizen complaint before citing someone for nudity at any state beach up and down the California coastline.
Even with the new state-wide ramifications, department officials have said they have no intent of doing proactive enforcement at other traditionally nudist state beaches along the coastline."
For the full story click here
That is such good news for nudists as California has some of the most beautiful nude beaches.
Here's the quote:
"The obliteration of the Cahill Policy essentially means that park rangers no longer need to receive a private citizen complaint before citing someone for nudity at any state beach up and down the California coastline.
Even with the new state-wide ramifications, department officials have said they have no intent of doing proactive enforcement at other traditionally nudist state beaches along the coastline."
For the full story click here
That is such good news for nudists as California has some of the most beautiful nude beaches.
A blog post about me
There was a blog post about me today. Gosh, I'm honored.
I guess I have ruffled a few feathers. I did not intend to as I have better things to do in my life than to have to respond to blog posts.
Nudiarst writes: "In a post today, Tom Mulhall claims that I actually agreed with his position on San Onofre based upon a few words he claims I wrote back on July 19 of this year."
He then states: "Pulling a few words out of context is a patently dishonest way to engage in debate. I would hope that Tom would keep this exchange of ideas and positions on a higher level."
This is what I quoted from nudiarst that he wrote on his blog on 7/19/09. I gave him the date yesterday:
"That's why I've said that the NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits at San Onofre, and instead seek ways to establish new areas. The California DPR doesn't oversee the entire coast, does it? There has to be several beaches ripe for nude recreation, in jurisdictions that need the revenue.
Sure, the loss of San Onofre is painful, but it doesn't necessarily spell the end of nude beaches in California."
So you can judge if I pulled something out of context, here is his FULL comment:
"I think AANR does have a lot to lose. Certainly the NAC, TNS members, and the Friends of San Onofre Beach are upset at them for undermining their efforts.
AANR has staked its reputation on this deal with the DPR. They have stated quite emphatically that they are not being played for a fool, and if it turns out that the DPR is yanking their chain, they will lose all credibility on the public lands issue.
I think that AANR knows that more free beaches are inevitable, Yes, San Onofre is a setback, but look at what's happening at Key West. Cities and states are desperate for money and there should be a willingness to designate more areas for nude sunbathing and swimming if it can be shown that such a venture can be safe and profitable.
That's why I've said that the NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits at San Onofre, and instead seek ways to establish new areas. The California DPR doesn't oversee the entire coast, does it? There has to be several beaches ripe for nude recreation, in jurisdictions that need the revenue.
Sure, the loss of San Onofre is painful, but it doesn't necessarily spell the end of nude beaches in California."
Everyone knows nudiarist does not agree with AANR. That really is real old news and means nothing as far as the Cahill policy being invalidated. What means something is he wrote "NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits."
Now once the court of appeals invalidated Cahill, NAC had to take it to the Supreme Court of California in hopes of getting the decision overturned. That was the correct move since the policy was invalidated at the court of appeals level.
I feel the lawsuit was started way to early in the negotiation process.
Later in today's post from nudiarst he writing "Pulling a few words out of context is a patently dishonest way to engage in debate. I would hope that Tom would keep this exchange of ideas and positions on a higher level" is a low blow.
As EVERYONE can see, NOTHING was pulled out of context.
As a matter of fact your whole post
CLICK HERE TO SEE POST was beneath your standards of excellence that you have maintained. At this point in time, I will still say you are the best nudist blogger on the web. I assume you are saddened by the San Onofre results as all nudists are and that is why you lashed out at me, but cheap shots at me does not reflect well on you.
You feel strongly that NAC should have sued, I don't. You got your way, NAC sued and now we all have to live with whatever the results will be with Cahill being invalidated. That is the true injustice here.
Some people think it is romantic even chivalrous to tilt at windmills. I'm a pragmatist and don't. That is probably where we differ.
Tom
I guess I have ruffled a few feathers. I did not intend to as I have better things to do in my life than to have to respond to blog posts.
Nudiarst writes: "In a post today, Tom Mulhall claims that I actually agreed with his position on San Onofre based upon a few words he claims I wrote back on July 19 of this year."
He then states: "Pulling a few words out of context is a patently dishonest way to engage in debate. I would hope that Tom would keep this exchange of ideas and positions on a higher level."
This is what I quoted from nudiarst that he wrote on his blog on 7/19/09. I gave him the date yesterday:
"That's why I've said that the NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits at San Onofre, and instead seek ways to establish new areas. The California DPR doesn't oversee the entire coast, does it? There has to be several beaches ripe for nude recreation, in jurisdictions that need the revenue.
Sure, the loss of San Onofre is painful, but it doesn't necessarily spell the end of nude beaches in California."
So you can judge if I pulled something out of context, here is his FULL comment:
"I think AANR does have a lot to lose. Certainly the NAC, TNS members, and the Friends of San Onofre Beach are upset at them for undermining their efforts.
AANR has staked its reputation on this deal with the DPR. They have stated quite emphatically that they are not being played for a fool, and if it turns out that the DPR is yanking their chain, they will lose all credibility on the public lands issue.
I think that AANR knows that more free beaches are inevitable, Yes, San Onofre is a setback, but look at what's happening at Key West. Cities and states are desperate for money and there should be a willingness to designate more areas for nude sunbathing and swimming if it can be shown that such a venture can be safe and profitable.
That's why I've said that the NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits at San Onofre, and instead seek ways to establish new areas. The California DPR doesn't oversee the entire coast, does it? There has to be several beaches ripe for nude recreation, in jurisdictions that need the revenue.
Sure, the loss of San Onofre is painful, but it doesn't necessarily spell the end of nude beaches in California."
Everyone knows nudiarist does not agree with AANR. That really is real old news and means nothing as far as the Cahill policy being invalidated. What means something is he wrote "NAC should consider abandoning any further lawsuits."
Now once the court of appeals invalidated Cahill, NAC had to take it to the Supreme Court of California in hopes of getting the decision overturned. That was the correct move since the policy was invalidated at the court of appeals level.
I feel the lawsuit was started way to early in the negotiation process.
Later in today's post from nudiarst he writing "Pulling a few words out of context is a patently dishonest way to engage in debate. I would hope that Tom would keep this exchange of ideas and positions on a higher level" is a low blow.
As EVERYONE can see, NOTHING was pulled out of context.
As a matter of fact your whole post
CLICK HERE TO SEE POST was beneath your standards of excellence that you have maintained. At this point in time, I will still say you are the best nudist blogger on the web. I assume you are saddened by the San Onofre results as all nudists are and that is why you lashed out at me, but cheap shots at me does not reflect well on you.
You feel strongly that NAC should have sued, I don't. You got your way, NAC sued and now we all have to live with whatever the results will be with Cahill being invalidated. That is the true injustice here.
Some people think it is romantic even chivalrous to tilt at windmills. I'm a pragmatist and don't. That is probably where we differ.
Tom
Thursday, October 22, 2009
California Supreme Court rejects Naturists lawsuit over Cahill Nude Beach policy
This is a pretty sad day for nudists in America. The Cahill policy that had been in effect for 30 years in California which has allowed nude sunbathing on many California beaches has been found to have been an illegal regulation.
This all started because the California Parks Department wanted to stop nude sunbathing at San Onofre beach.
In earlier negotiatations with the Parks department, Cahill would have stayed in effect at all beaches in California except San Onofre. And room for including more nude beaches was under discussion. This was a good compromise. Nudists would have lost San Onofre to nude sun bathing, but could have gained more beaches.
However, I guess some people do not understand the meaning of hazards of litigation and decided to sue. They put at risk nude sunbathing at ALL beaches in California. That was so obvious in the lawsuit.
Worse, not only was Cahill at risk in California, but Cahill was a model policy used by nudist groups in other states to work on getting legal nude beaches.
I was a past president of the Palm Springs Chamber of Commerce and was on the city council finance committee for a 2 year term. In politics you have to compromise if you want your way. That is normally the best solution as it would have been in this case.
I sure hope other nudist groups can work with the California parks department and salvage some safe nude beaches in California.
Here's the story:
"Court rejects nude beach policy
A nude beach advocacy group has lost a bid to the California Supreme Court for reinstatement of an informal state policy of allowing nudity on some state beaches.
The state high court, in an order issued in San Francisco Wednesday and announced today, declined to hear an appeal by the Naturist Action Committee. The action leaves in place a decision in which a Court of Appeal in Santa Ana last summer overturned a 30-year-old state policy of allowing some remote state beaches to be clothing-optional.
Under that policy, the state parks system tolerated nudity at certain beaches unless a citizen complained.
Bay Area state beaches that were allowed to be clothing-optional included Red Rock Beach in Marin County and Gray Whale Cove State Beach in San Mateo County.
But the appeals court said the policy was an illegal "underground regulation" because the California Recreation and Parks Department never completed procedural requirements for public notice and comment.
With the informal policy struck down, beaches are now governed by a state law that bans nudity on all state property....
Stearns said state beach officers will enforce the nudity ban but have "a lot of discretion" as to whether to give a warning, issue a misdemeanor citation or do nothing if they spot nude sunbathing...
The case stemmed from a lawsuit in which the Naturist Action Committee sued the parks department in an effort to block a plan to end nude sunbathing on San Onofre State Beach in San Diego County.
For the full story: click here
Tom
This all started because the California Parks Department wanted to stop nude sunbathing at San Onofre beach.
In earlier negotiatations with the Parks department, Cahill would have stayed in effect at all beaches in California except San Onofre. And room for including more nude beaches was under discussion. This was a good compromise. Nudists would have lost San Onofre to nude sun bathing, but could have gained more beaches.
However, I guess some people do not understand the meaning of hazards of litigation and decided to sue. They put at risk nude sunbathing at ALL beaches in California. That was so obvious in the lawsuit.
Worse, not only was Cahill at risk in California, but Cahill was a model policy used by nudist groups in other states to work on getting legal nude beaches.
I was a past president of the Palm Springs Chamber of Commerce and was on the city council finance committee for a 2 year term. In politics you have to compromise if you want your way. That is normally the best solution as it would have been in this case.
I sure hope other nudist groups can work with the California parks department and salvage some safe nude beaches in California.
Here's the story:
"Court rejects nude beach policy
A nude beach advocacy group has lost a bid to the California Supreme Court for reinstatement of an informal state policy of allowing nudity on some state beaches.
The state high court, in an order issued in San Francisco Wednesday and announced today, declined to hear an appeal by the Naturist Action Committee. The action leaves in place a decision in which a Court of Appeal in Santa Ana last summer overturned a 30-year-old state policy of allowing some remote state beaches to be clothing-optional.
Under that policy, the state parks system tolerated nudity at certain beaches unless a citizen complained.
Bay Area state beaches that were allowed to be clothing-optional included Red Rock Beach in Marin County and Gray Whale Cove State Beach in San Mateo County.
But the appeals court said the policy was an illegal "underground regulation" because the California Recreation and Parks Department never completed procedural requirements for public notice and comment.
With the informal policy struck down, beaches are now governed by a state law that bans nudity on all state property....
Stearns said state beach officers will enforce the nudity ban but have "a lot of discretion" as to whether to give a warning, issue a misdemeanor citation or do nothing if they spot nude sunbathing...
The case stemmed from a lawsuit in which the Naturist Action Committee sued the parks department in an effort to block a plan to end nude sunbathing on San Onofre State Beach in San Diego County.
For the full story: click here
Tom
Sunday, September 6, 2009
Tickets will be given on San Onofre Nude Beach starting Tuesday September 8th

The Naturist Action Committee or NAC on Friday September 4th posted this. I am reposting. Nudists beware!
"Friday, September 04, 2009
Tickets for nudity at San Onofre?
California Parks Department says tickets for nudity are imminent at San Onofre State Beach, despite current court order requiring adherence to the Cahill Policy as it existed last August.
posted by Naturist Action Committee
Tuesday, July 21, 2009
NAC Advisory: California
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NATURIST ACTION COMMITTEE
ADVISORY
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http://www.naturistaction.org
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DATE: July 21, 2009
SUBJECT: California Advisory
TO: All naturists and other concerned citizens
Dear Naturist,
This is an advisory from the Naturist Action Committee (NAC) concerning an important situation in the state of California.
Responding to a request from legal counsel for the California Department of Parks & Recreation (DPR), the California Court of Appeal for the 4th District has published the previously unpublished ruling it rendered last month in the San Onofre State Beach case. The recent appellate ruling overturned a 2008 Superior Court victory by the Naturist Action Committee and Friends of San Onofre Beach, a local naturist group.
At issue is whether DPR has followed proper procedure in abruptly ending the application of the Cahill/Harrison regulation at San Onofre State Beach. Cahill/Harrison is long-standing and well-known means for managing and regulating the clothing-optional use of portions of state parks.
The unpublished ruling applied only to San Onofre State Beach. However, publication gives the ruling greater precedential effect and allows the possibility that rangers may ignore the Cahill policy and may begin issuing citations for nudity at other state parks under Title 14, Section 4322 of the California Code of Regulations.
CAHILL
It has been suggested by some that the Cahill Policy has remained in effect throughout the years entirely through the good will of the California Parks Department. If that has been so, then the good will ended in May, 2008, when Parks Director Ruth Coleman singled out San Onofre State Beach and said, "Cahill does not apply there."
From that moment, the Cahill Policy became badly damaged goods. If it could be terminated abruptly and without appropriate process or public involvement at one state park, then it could happen at any state park, at any time. So much for good will.
Trusting the good will of public officials for something as important as protection from arrest for benign behavior has never been an intelligent choice. Relying on that same promise of good will after the trust has been publicly and intentionally broken is simply folly.
CHOICES
Confronted with the crippling damage dealt to the Cahill Policy at San Onofre, the Naturist Action Committee faced a basic choice. It could accept the loss of San Onofre, it could negotiate, or it could fight.
When the Parks Department refused to negotiate, NAC chose to fight.
NAC did not, and does not, look on the Cahill/Harrison regulation as a matter of good will. It’s a regulation, and it has been used exactly as regulation by each successive administration of the California Parks Department for THIRTY YEARS.
The Superior Court accepted NAC's contention that Cahill/Harrison is a regulation. The Court of Appeal recognized it as a regulation, too, though its different view concerning quality and extent were what allowed the reversal of the Superior Court’s procedural requirements for undoing the regulation.
NAC's legal challenge to DPR’s arbitrary destruction of Cahill at San Onofre did not cripple Cahill. That damage quite clearly had already been inflicted. Trusting "good will" while waiting for the next shoe to drop will NOT restore the damaged Cahill Policy. And at NO point has it EVER been true that accepting the loss of San Onofre will somehow inoculate naturists against the similar loss of another California beach or another California state park.
TICKETS?
DPR spokespersons have given conflicting information. One predicted that the Department would "tread lightly" on the matter of citations for nudity in state parks. Referring to San Onofre, another has said that no action was planned until at least after Labor Day. The truth is that there's really no way to know for sure.
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
Later this week, the Naturist Action Committee will file its petition to have the case heard by the California Supreme Court.
NAC will continue to issue Action Alerts, Advisories and Updates on this issue as circumstances require. Look for them.
MORE INFORMATION
Details of this situation and specifics of the Cahill/Harrison Regulation and associated documents may be found on the NAC Web site: www.naturistaction.org/sanonofre
There, you will find background documents related to the Cahill Policy, the Harrison letter and NAC's lawsuit. You will also find this NAC Advisory on the NAC Web site: www.naturistaction.org . Click on ALERTS, ADVISORIES & UPDATES, and look under Current Advisories.
PLEASE HELP NAC TO CONTINUE HELPING NATURISTS!
The Naturist Action Committee remains committed to the vigorous defense of the clothing-optional use of public land. Activism on behalf of naturists can be expensive. NAC relies entirely on the voluntary financial support of people like YOU.
Won't you please send a generous donation to:
NAC
PO Box 132
Oshkosh, WI 54903
Or call toll free (800) 886-7230 (8AM-4PM, Central Time, weekdays) to donate by phone using your MasterCard, Visa or Discover Card. Or use your credit card to make a convenient online donation: www.naturistaction.org/donate/
Thank you for choosing to make a difference.
Naturally,
Bob Morton
Executive Director
Naturist Action Committee
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Naturist Action Committee (NAC)
- PO Box 132, Oshkosh, WI 54903
Executive Dir. Bob Morton - execdir@naturistaction.org
Board Member Allen Baylis - rab@baylislaw.com
Online Rep. Dennis Kirkpatrick - naturist@sunclad.com
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Labels: Cahill, California, DPR, Harrison, San Onofre"
It will be a shame if San Onofre can no longer be used as a nude beach.
Tom Mulhall
Terra Cotta Inn clothing optional resort and spa
http://sunnyfun.com
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Monday, August 10, 2009
The Conservative Orange County Register newspaper says leave nude sunbathers alone
The Orange County Register is a very conservative newspaper. They had an editorial basically telling government to leave nude sunbathers and people who moon passing trains alone. It is very telling that a conservative newspaper that is usually so law and order has to step in and say, government officials, back off.
Here is the story:
"Leave mooners and nudists alone
O.C. governments clamp down on the fun.
An Orange County Register editorial
Southern California still has the international reputation as being a fun-in-the-sun place. The reality has been whittled away by government officials and police agencies that have been cracking down on life's innocent pleasures. The stories abound. Beaches now are mostly smoke-free zones. Don't you dare try to enjoy some wine at the beach on a quiet evening! Cities have tried to get rid of beach fire rings. We heard one story about police staking out a local park July Fourth and ticketing people watching fireworks, given that parks are supposed to be closed after dark.
A couple of recent brouhahas – involving nude beach-goers and people who moon trains – should be viewed in this perspective.
...we have an even harder time understanding why the authorities have such a desire to put a damper on innocent fun. These days, officials fit H.L. Mencken's definition of a Puritan: someone with the haunting fear that somewhere, someone is happy.
Naturists had long enjoyed nude sunbathing at Trail 6 at San Onofre State Beach. They mostly keep to themselves. But state officials, citing complaints from the public, have started to fine them and will begin a full-on crackdown on Labor Day.
..."It's getting to be that you can't have fun anymore," one mooner told the Register. We agree. Yes, rules are needed to restrict destructive behavior. Yes, the government has the right to patrol its own property. Yes, these are relatively minor things in the course of existence. Still, public parks are meant to be enjoyed by the public. The government has simply moved too far in the direction of rule-making and control."
For the full story click here
I think this article hit the nail on the head. So many people are so unhappy with their lives. Especially government officials. The only thing that makes them happy is trying to control others happiness. If someone is having fun, it makes them miserable,so their attitude is lets make the citizens miserable too.
Very sad that government no longer seems to work for us citizens.
Now if you want to have fun where it is 100% legal, then come visit our clothing optional resort The Terra Cotta Inn located in sunny Palm Springs, California.
We are the most mainstream nudist resort in America and perfect for couples trying nude sunbathing for the first time.
Give us a call at 800-786-6938.
Visit our site at http://sunnyfun.com
We hope to see you in sunny Palm Springs!
Here is the story:
"Leave mooners and nudists alone
O.C. governments clamp down on the fun.
An Orange County Register editorial
Southern California still has the international reputation as being a fun-in-the-sun place. The reality has been whittled away by government officials and police agencies that have been cracking down on life's innocent pleasures. The stories abound. Beaches now are mostly smoke-free zones. Don't you dare try to enjoy some wine at the beach on a quiet evening! Cities have tried to get rid of beach fire rings. We heard one story about police staking out a local park July Fourth and ticketing people watching fireworks, given that parks are supposed to be closed after dark.
A couple of recent brouhahas – involving nude beach-goers and people who moon trains – should be viewed in this perspective.
...we have an even harder time understanding why the authorities have such a desire to put a damper on innocent fun. These days, officials fit H.L. Mencken's definition of a Puritan: someone with the haunting fear that somewhere, someone is happy.
Naturists had long enjoyed nude sunbathing at Trail 6 at San Onofre State Beach. They mostly keep to themselves. But state officials, citing complaints from the public, have started to fine them and will begin a full-on crackdown on Labor Day.
..."It's getting to be that you can't have fun anymore," one mooner told the Register. We agree. Yes, rules are needed to restrict destructive behavior. Yes, the government has the right to patrol its own property. Yes, these are relatively minor things in the course of existence. Still, public parks are meant to be enjoyed by the public. The government has simply moved too far in the direction of rule-making and control."
For the full story click here
I think this article hit the nail on the head. So many people are so unhappy with their lives. Especially government officials. The only thing that makes them happy is trying to control others happiness. If someone is having fun, it makes them miserable,so their attitude is lets make the citizens miserable too.
Very sad that government no longer seems to work for us citizens.
Now if you want to have fun where it is 100% legal, then come visit our clothing optional resort The Terra Cotta Inn located in sunny Palm Springs, California.
We are the most mainstream nudist resort in America and perfect for couples trying nude sunbathing for the first time.
Give us a call at 800-786-6938.
Visit our site at http://sunnyfun.com
We hope to see you in sunny Palm Springs!
Tuesday, July 14, 2009
Nude Beach goers at San Onofre to get tickets after labor Day

So much for people thinking we live in a democracy here in California.
San Onofre nude beach has been a nude beach for almost 50 years. Then last year a dictator of "moral values" took over as the head (but obviously not brains) of the states Parks department. Obviously she has major issues with nudity and people enjoying themselves while nude sunbathing.
She declared San Onofre Nude Beach illegal to go nude sunbathing. Naturists sued. They won in the lower courts, but lost in the court of appeals. Now they are deciding whether to appeal to the California Supreme Court.
This is a very popular nude beach. It is the most popular one at the San Onofre area. In a poll that was on the San Clemente Times website (before the results were taken down) it was over 80% of people were in favor of the nude beach.
So much for us being a democracy. It's sad here in America that one nasty politician with power can undo 50 years of public use of a nude beach.
Here is the story:
"Bare beach goers at Trail 6 in San Onofre State Beach will get away with a warning through the summer.
State officials said they plan to educate the public at the traditionally clothing-optional beach about the new ban -- posting signs and verbally warning state park visitors through Labor Day weekend.
"After that time, appropriate enforcement action will be taken including citation and arrest if necessary," said Ken Kramer, district superintendent of the Orange Coast District. The citation fine is unclear because it's ultimately determined by the courts, Kramer said.
At the same time, a group of nudists who want to keep it clothing-optional at the 1,000-foot stretch of beach are considering appealing their case to the state's Supreme Court after they lost the latest legal wrangling...
"Apparently, they are happy to collect the significant revenue Trail 6 generates in day use fees," Baylis said of the citation delay...
Their decision overturned a lower court's decision in which an Orange County Superior Court judge ruled that the Cahill Policy is indeed a regulation and that state Department of Parks and Recreation violated procedure when they adopted a nudity ban without first seeking public feedback...
For the full story click here
It will be sad if it closes. We have many guests from the midwest and east coast come out here in the summer and spend Sunday nights thru Friday nights at our resort in Palm Springs and go to San Onofre on Saturday and Sunday to go nude sunbathing at the beach, so they can have a beach experience. Now they won't suffer as they will just spend the whole week at our resort, but there staying there I'm sure brought in a lot of revenue to that area as the nude beach is the post popular beach in that whole state park.
Too bad the idiots at the state Parks department don't open their eyes to see how Haulover Beach became the most popular beach in Miami because it is a nude beach. They could also look to Palm Springs where they would see that our nude resort, The Terra Cotta Inn has had the highest occupancy rate of ALL hotels in Palm Springs in the summertime for over the last 10 years.
So if you are looking for a fun, relaxing vacation, give us a call at 800-786-6938.
We are the most mainstream nudist resort in the US and are perfect for couples trying topless or nude sunbathing for the first time.
Visit our site at http://sunnyfun.com
We hope to see you soon in sunny Palm Springs!
Thursday, July 2, 2009
Vote for nude sunbathing at San Onofre Nude Beach

As I have already mentioned, the California courts just rejected nudists attempts to keep San Onofre Beach, a nude beach, even though it has been in nude use for over 40 years.
Obviously, California has so much money that they can waste hundreds of thousands of dollars to litigate this. Further, San Onofre nude beach is the most inconvenient beach to go to (that's why it's a nude beach.) If it became a prude beach, no one would go to it and the state would miss out on lots of parking revenue.
San Onofre beach is right down the road by the town of San Clemente. The local paper there just printed a survey:
"Should nude bathing be allowed at a remote beach at San Onofre State Beach?"
Now is your chance to vote YES and let politicians know you want a nude beach.
CLICK HERE TO VOTE
Scroll down the page. The survey is on the left hand side.
We are having fantastic weather in Palm Springs. Sunny and nice and warm.
If you have always wanted to try topless or nude sunbathing, give us a call at 800-786-6938.
Visit our site at http://sunnyfun.com
We are the most mainstream nudist resort in the US and perfect for couples trying topless or nude sunbathing for the first time.
We hope to see you soon in sunny Palm Springs!
Monday, June 29, 2009
Join us for our Free Naked 4th of July BBQ in sunny Palm Springs - Rooms available

We are having fantastic weather here in Palm Springs. Beautiful topless and nude sunbathing weather. Lots of sunshine. No June gloom like over at the beaches in Los Angeles and San Diego.
Due to a few cancellations, we have 3 rooms available this weekend July 3rd and
4th. And where we normally have a 3 or 4 night minimum over holidays as everyone
loves taking extra days off of work to stay here at holidays, due to the last
minute cancellations, you can book just the Friday and Saturday.
This Fourth we also have a fantastic and fun naked BBQ. Hotdogs, hamburgers and all
the side dishes. Plus plenty of ice cold beer. Best of all it is free for all
our guests.
In the evening the city of Palm Springs has a great fireworks display.
Give us a call at 800-786-6938 to book this fun weekend or anytime.
And don't forget, in July and August we have our summertime special on Monday
thru Thursday of stay 1 night, the 2nd is half priced.
Visit our website at http://sunnyfun.com
We hope to see you soon in sunny Palm Springs!
San Onofre nude beach will be closed if naturists don't win court battle

I have had a few people say to me that they bet I am happy that San Onofre nude beach down by San Diego County may be closed by the state. They said "more business for me."
That is so untrue. Only about 15% of our business comes from Southern California as we're the ONLY nudist resort west of the Mississippi that caters to couples on vacation. Southern Californians normally just want to book us only on Saturday nights like typical nudist resorts, where guests from around the world like to book us 7 days a week. That's why we have one of the highest occupancy rates of ALL hotels in Palm Springs.
We have had lots of guests who have booked us Sunday thru Thursday nights and then go to San Onofre for the weekends when it has nude sunbathers.
Lots of people like nude beaches, so I am sad if it is not reopened to nudists.
Here is the story:
"Naturists lose court battle to keep O.C. beach nude
Group says it will likely appeal to California Supreme Court in case involving San Onofre
A group of nudists who want to keep San Onofre State Beach's Trail 6 a clothing-optional beach have lost their latest legal battle, after a panel of justices at the 4th District Court of Appeal ruled that a policy that addresses nudity at state beaches is invalid.
The ruling favored state officials who last spring decided to crack down on a more than 20-year tradition of nude sunbathing at the 1,000-foot stretch of beach.
Huntington Beach attorney Allen Baylis, who led the fight against the ban, said the Naturist Action Committee will likely appeal their case to the state's Supreme Court.
"It's time for the (Department of Parks and Recreation) to realize that one of the reasons San Onofre has so many visitors is that there's a very popular clothing-optional beach there," Baylis said. "The people who visit Trail 6 pay their admission fees and buy their annual passes, which contribute a significant amount of money to the department and the local economy."
...Officials said the naturists have to adhere to a code in state law called nudity prohibited, which states that "no person shall appear nude while in any unit except in authorized areas set aside for that purpose by the department."
...Stearns also said the new superintendant's decision to ban nudity at the beach came after an increase in complaints about the influx of people to the area in recent years, stating that the area is no longer remote.
Some in the naturist community disagree, however..."
For the full story click here
I hope the California Supreme Court is more enlightened then the court of appeals.
If you want a nice safe place to go topless or nude sunbathing, give us The Terra Cotta Inn clothing optional resort and spa a call at 800-786-6938.
We have couples from around the world vacation here as AOL.com last year picked us as one of the 10 best nudist resorts in the world.
Visit our site at http://sunnyfun.com
We hope to see you in sunny Palm Springs!
Wednesday, September 3, 2008
San Onofre Nude beach ruling appealed by the state
It looks like the head of the California Parks and Recreation wants to waste more taxpayer money. San Onofre nude beach has been a successfully run nude beach for over 30 years until the new head of the parks department decided no more nudes.
She forced nudists to go to court to enforce the California laws allowing San Onofre to stay open. She violated the law closing down this popular nude beach and lost. Now she wants to waste more taxpayer money appealing the case.
Instead of seeing how successfully run nude beaches like Haulover Beach in Miami and Sandy Hook nude beach are, she is imposing her own prudish ways wanting to Close San Onofre.
The losers are nudists and California taxpayers. It is too bad that we can't make her personally pay for all the state taxpayer money she is wasting on this case.
And America is called the "land of the free?" Not if you want to nude sunbathe on American beaches.
Now if you want to go topless or nude sunbathing, at our resort, The Terra Cotta Inn clothing optional resort and spa, give us a call at 800-786-6938. Tripadvisor picked us this July as one of the 10 best clothing optional resorts in the world. Visit our site at http://sunnyfun.com
Hope to see you in sunny Palm Springs!
She forced nudists to go to court to enforce the California laws allowing San Onofre to stay open. She violated the law closing down this popular nude beach and lost. Now she wants to waste more taxpayer money appealing the case.
Instead of seeing how successfully run nude beaches like Haulover Beach in Miami and Sandy Hook nude beach are, she is imposing her own prudish ways wanting to Close San Onofre.
The losers are nudists and California taxpayers. It is too bad that we can't make her personally pay for all the state taxpayer money she is wasting on this case.
And America is called the "land of the free?" Not if you want to nude sunbathe on American beaches.
Now if you want to go topless or nude sunbathing, at our resort, The Terra Cotta Inn clothing optional resort and spa, give us a call at 800-786-6938. Tripadvisor picked us this July as one of the 10 best clothing optional resorts in the world. Visit our site at http://sunnyfun.com
Hope to see you in sunny Palm Springs!
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